(This partial interview by Review-Journal columnist John L. Smith with retired FBI undercover agent and author Bob Hamer first aired in its entirety Jan. 21 on 88.9 FM “KNPR’s State of Nevada.” A recording of the interview is available online at knpr.org.) Listen play
SMITH: Let’s talk about one of those early stops. This is where our paths cross at some level. I wrote a book called “The Animal in Hollywood” about a very tough guy in the L.A. mob, Anthony Fiato, and his experience both as a criminal and as a cooperating witness. You worked in the middle of his world. … Can you talk a little bit about working La Cosa Nostra in those days in Los Angeles. L.A. is a very big place, but the mobsters weren’t too hard to find, I assume, they were just hard to catch.
HAMER: The difference between L.A. and a lot of cities is we didn’t have a Little Italy. L.A. had Little Tokyo, they sort of have a Little Saigon. There are a lot of different ethnic communities there, but the Italian family wasn’t maybe as strong as maybe they were in other major cities. And as you well know they were sometimes dubbed as the Mickey Mouse Mafia. But they had some pretty significant key players that were involved. They reported to the Commission. They were legitimate La Cosa Nostra, Mafia guys as most of us refer to them. And Anthony Fiato was a major player in that whole organized crime scene. I worked it both from a case agent perspective, when we were actually targeting Fiato, sat in on hours and hours of wiretaps when we we actually listening to his conversations. And then eventually, when we put together a pretty significant case, he decided to cooperate with the FBI and it was he and his brother Larry who actually introduced me into the L.A. Mafia family.
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